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Recently the Mauryan Empire map included in this article was changed from to . Both maps are labelled as the "Maurya Empire c. 250 BCE" but show significantly different extents; and both have gone numerous revisions over the years so that they are unlikely to bear much relation with the cited sources on their description page. Anyone know offhand which map (if either) is accurate? Pinging @RegentsPark and Fowler&fowler: for sanity check. Abecedare (talk) 12:43, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The one on the left is the one with support in the modern sources and therefore the correct one; the one on the right is the traditional one. We mention what the map on the left shows in words in the India page, "Politically, by the 3rd century BCE, the kingdom of Magadha had annexed or reduced other states to emerge as the Mauryan Empire. The empire was once thought to have controlled most of the subcontinent except the far south, but its core regions are now thought to have been separated by large autonomous areas," cited to the books of Burton Stein and Hermann Kulke and Dietmar Rothermund. The map on the left is also the main map in the Maurya Empire page and was the result of a consensus; someone changed it, probably very recently, and I had to revert it. That map has quite a few sources, including Monica Smith of UCLA whose work addresses this very issue. Also, historian David Ludden, now of NYU, but then of Penn, (and perennially the stepson of Betty White, who said in an interview, "Our son is a historian at Penn, who works on the agricultural history of South India. Go figure. :)) in India and South Asia has addressed this. We have cited Ludden in the sentence, "Early political consolidations gave rise to the loose-knit Maurya and Gupta Empires based in the Ganges Basin." in the lead of India. I have italicized the reference to the map on the left. Fowler&fowler«Talk»13:18, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've copied the maps and aligned them; "left" and "right" were, on my screen, due to length of the lines, different from what I understand F&f to mean. The 'map with the holes' is the modern understanding, right? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk!14:01, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks F&F! Based on your input, I have undone the recent edit (pinging @Gauhar2806: in case they wish to argue for the change they made).
Interestingly, Avantiputra7 had added a note to "Version 2" of the map in 2017, sayingThis is the standard "textbook" map of the Maurya Empire. Historians are now arguing that the Maurya Empire did not include large parts of India, which were controlled by autonomous tribes. For such a map, see File:Maurya Empire, c.250 BCE.png. But the "outdated" map is nevertheless used on several articles on wikipedia, which may need a clean-up. Abecedare (talk) 16:29, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The south Indian mathematician Madhava of Sangamagrama founded the famous Kerala School of Astronomy and Mathematics in the 14th century which produced a lot of great south Indian mathematicians like Parameshvara, Nilakantha Somayaji and Jyeṣṭhadeva.
The mathematician Madhava of Sangamagrama founded the famous Kerala School of Astronomy and Mathematics in the 14th century, which produced several great mathematicians such as Parameshvara, Nilakantha Somayaji and Jyeṣṭhadeva. Ashok (talk) 10:53, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This page in its current state claims that Jainism "originated" in 600 BCE. This is an incorrect information as there is no documented date for beginning of Jain religion. It is obscure. The 23rd Jain Tirthankar, Parshvanath is a historical figure who lived in 900 BCE. Apart from this, many notable researchers from the archaeological survey of India had opinion about the existence of Jainism in Indus valley era which I can add with proper citations. I would encourage input from other members of Wikipedia community for their suggestions and wait for a couple of weeks to make a consensus based update. Livingstonshr (talk) 15:51, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]